there are millions of people who look up to the kardashians. it's very responsible to have someone like kim kardashian in a film that is a cautionary tale about making bad decisions and choices so that if people or children or fans of hers are watching and coming in and they see this story, if it speaks to them, then she's done a great job and i have done a great job in putting her in the movie. >> she has about 18 million followers on twitter. >> so you understand. >> i get it. she didn't claim to be fabulously talented. what she is it very hard working, very beautiful, and knows how to work her brand. >> very much, very much. >> whether she's the right person for marriage counseling, i'm not sure. >> she's not the marriage counselor. >> i wouldn't advise you to take her on your arm and say, help me out. >> no, no, but she does a great job in the film. she does a great job. she's in a smaller role. her purpose and point in anything that i do is to uplift and inspire and encourage, as i have said before. and i think that when people see the mov